Comments for Vegan Fighter http://www.veganfighter.com Fighting to Educate People on Vegan Options Tue, 04 Oct 2011 23:37:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 Comment on 5 Reasons To Stop Drinking Milk by GermanRealisticAntiUtopist http://www.veganfighter.com/5-reasons-to-stop-drinking-milk/#comment-25 GermanRealisticAntiUtopist Tue, 04 Oct 2011 23:37:19 +0000 http://www.veganfighter.com/?p=103#comment-25 No offence Vegans, I appreciate your doing because it´s good for the enviroment, still I disagree with many of your arguments or actions, most of all the missionaric, agressive media/public-appearence of mostly young Vegans (young people normally cling to extremism and have serious problems with democratic pulralism and respecting other opinions) and with the quasi-religious ideology and the over-emotional and nearly unwanted-self-satiric campaigns of Vegans/PETA. Talking about naturality is a farce anyways, of course drinking milk (as an adult) is not "natural" though that is an cultural invention like agriculture and livestock-farming but also domesting vegetables. It´s like complaining about war including the killing or winter including coldness and snow or even more foundational: the night being without sunlight. Also the argument with the intention of Cows milk is very poor. The intention of Cows in general for sure was not serving humans, neither any grain was intentionally dedicated for humans. It is humanitys ability to create and also to adapt. We adapted for living from agriculture and with the end of the hunter-and gatherer-existence came the beginning of the farmer-and-butcher-existence and with that the using of livestock as a ressource with the included loss of respect. I agree that this actual consuming on animals is far from rationality neither from being wise (ignoring the ethic tragedy of it), but that the greed, gluttony and exorbitance are the primary worths of the whole society and not only a symptomic in agriculture. Also the disrepect for animals is included in the 3 great religions (like the Jewish kosher or the Islamic Halal slaughtering, but like the christian-european ideolgy of subduing the world because of being the summit of creation) but primary in the actual era; it is based in the capitalistic/nihilistic and materialistic western-globalized economy-fascist ideology. I also drink Soda milk (for drinking, I prefer real dairy for cooking, because of better quality/cook-ability), but for the reason of saving envoriment, I would never say it´s wrong or shameful to utilize animals or any other live form or even come up with the pseudo-religious nonsense of those anti-speciesists. Because that´s not unnatural. All life except to plants it based on feeding and consuming on other life-forms, but though we have great opputinity we have great resposibility for the living beings serving as and if we want to feed on them we have to ensure them a goods ife and if needed to kill them (for flesh or skin) spare them from preventable and so unecessary suffering. I repeat: I respect your opinion, Vegans, but as a convinced and proud democrat I urgently appeal to you to respect the democratic pluralism. Only because you believe in a certain ideology and the majority of the society seems to do not, you have not the right to deny the opinion of others only because they do not share your believe. In hope of constructive change No offence Vegans, I appreciate your doing because it´s good for the enviroment, still I disagree with many of your arguments or actions, most of all the missionaric, agressive media/public-appearence of mostly young Vegans (young people normally cling to extremism and have serious problems with democratic pulralism and respecting other opinions) and with the quasi-religious ideology and the over-emotional and nearly unwanted-self-satiric campaigns of Vegans/PETA.

Talking about naturality is a farce anyways, of course drinking milk (as an adult) is not “natural” though that is an cultural invention like agriculture and livestock-farming but also domesting vegetables.

It´s like complaining about war including the killing or winter including coldness and snow or even more foundational: the night being without sunlight.

Also the argument with the intention of Cows milk is very poor. The intention of Cows in general for sure was not serving humans, neither any grain was intentionally dedicated for humans. It is humanitys ability to create and also to adapt.

We adapted for living from agriculture and with the end of the hunter-and gatherer-existence came the beginning of the farmer-and-butcher-existence and with that the using of livestock as a ressource with the included loss of respect.

I agree that this actual consuming on animals is far from rationality neither from being wise (ignoring the ethic tragedy of it), but that the greed, gluttony and exorbitance are the primary worths of the whole society and not only a symptomic in agriculture.

Also the disrepect for animals is included in the 3 great religions (like the Jewish kosher or the Islamic Halal slaughtering, but like the christian-european ideolgy of subduing the world because of being the summit of creation) but primary in the actual era; it is based in the capitalistic/nihilistic and materialistic western-globalized economy-fascist ideology.

I also drink Soda milk (for drinking, I prefer real dairy for cooking, because of better quality/cook-ability), but for the reason of saving envoriment, I would never say it´s wrong or shameful to utilize animals or any other live form or even come up with the pseudo-religious nonsense of those anti-speciesists. Because that´s not unnatural. All life except to plants it based on feeding and consuming on other life-forms, but though we have great opputinity we have great resposibility for the living beings serving as and if we want to feed on them we have to ensure them a goods ife and if needed to kill them (for flesh or skin) spare them from preventable and so unecessary suffering.

I repeat: I respect your opinion, Vegans, but as a convinced and proud democrat I urgently appeal to you to respect the democratic pluralism. Only because you believe in a certain ideology and the majority of the society seems to do not, you have not the right to deny the opinion of others only because they do not share your believe.

In hope of constructive change

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